Thursday, September 22, 2011

How do I fix timing on a 97 expedition?

I recently had to change the head gaskets on my 97 ford expedition and had to take the 2 heads to a shop to get repaired and checked for warps anyways I finished putting everything back together and now it wont start it is obviously a timing problem because when I put it back together the timing chains were taken off and put back not in their original position %26quot;my father actually put the chains on I did the rest%26quot; as he has more know how about timing but he put them on wrong my question is how do I go about finding the correct position to put the 2 timing chains as they are completely off time and I cant take it to a shop because im piss poor broke for now %26quot;damn economy%26quot; any help is appreciatedHow do I fix timing on a 97 expedition?
First off, like already mentioned, these engines ARE interference engines meaning that valves WILL touch pistons if valve timing is off. With that in mind, you better hope that you haven't damaged valves.



To time these engines correctly, yes there are specific tools that are dedicated for the purposes of holding the cams and cranks into position for this procedure. But in absence of those tools (which I'm assuming is the case), this would be best done with two people on hand. First turn the engine over to the point where cylinder 1 is at TDC (it will be marked on the timing cover). Next, you'll need to remove both valve covers, the crankshaft pulley (which requires use of a bolt-grip type puller which I'm sure you know already) and then finally the timing chain cover. Remove both timing chain tensioners and compress them CAREFULLY in a vise, using a tiny flat blade screwdriver to push on the lock tabs as you compress it. Finally, insert a paper clip into the holes to hold them into the released position when you remove them from the vise. Now remove both timing chains. The crankshaft sprocket should be set where the mark is on the 6 o'clock position. You will now fold one chain exactly in half. On a 4.6L engine, you will mark one link with some kind of paint that won't rub off easily. And then you will mark the other end link with the same paint. The procedure is identical for a 5.4L engine except, you will mark one link with paint on the one end, and you will mark the two links at the opposite end. You will now begin with the driver side bank of cylinders and install the chain with the painted mark on the one link oriented with the mark on the crankshaft's INNER sprocket (so that this mark is at the 6 o'clock position). You will now have an assistant CAREFULLY rotate the driver side cam to where the dot on the cam sprocket is at approximately the 1 o'clock position, using either an 18mm wrench on the sprocket bolt, or a pair of vise-grips on the cam itself if it has the one-piece pressed on style of sprocket. BE CAREFULL WHEN THIS IS DONE, AS THE CAM IS UNDER TENSION. Next, have the assistant install the other end of the chain with the painted mark lined up with the dot on the sprocket (two painted marks if it's the 5.4L engine). Make sure the chain maintains this orientation as you reinstall the timing chain tensioner and torque the two 10mm bolts. Now verify that the chain is in proper time and pull the paper clip out in order to apply tension to the chain. Now repeat this step with the passenger side bank, with the chain installed on the outer sprocket on the crankshaft, and with the dot on the cam sprocket at approximately the 10 or 11 o'clock position. Once installed, reinstall the crank sensor ring onto the crankshaft, and then the timing chain cover and crankshaft pulley. Before reinstalling the valve covers, turn the engine over by hand using an 18mm socket and johnson bar on the crank pulley bolt. This is to ensure you haven't damaged any valves. Reinstall the valve covers and start engine to check for leaks or other issues. Hope this helps.How do I fix timing on a 97 expedition?
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How do I fix timing on a 97 expedition?
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How do I fix timing on a 97 expedition?
My friend, I hope you haven't damaged the valves, if the chains are off then most likey you have. In order to time the motor, on a 5.4 you must have a timing chain tool kit that has the crankshaft holding tool and the camshaft timing tools, with out them you will never get it timed right, a 4.6 has copper colored links and with the the crank on top dead center and align the linksHow do I fix timing on a 97 expedition?
Haynes manual has the procedure complete with pics.

cost ya $20 at the parts store.

toolong procedure and need pics to post here.

98 taurus over heating... AGAIN!?

i did have the heads resurfaced when i changed the head gasket btw... how much would a shop charge me to diagnose the problem?98 taurus over heating... AGAIN!?
On many cars when you drain the water and then re-fill it,the thermostat hinders the free flow of water around the circuit and this creates an air pocket in the system.A quick trip around the block to warm it up opens the stat and clears the air pocket so that the water level in the radiator is lowered ; it has not leaked out ,just filled up the air pocket space so now you can fill it up. You say that you have changed the fan switch,are you sure that the fan is switched.When it overheats does the fan run at this time.98 taurus over heating... AGAIN!?
If it was time to replace all of those other items, the radiator should have been right along on that list as well.



If we're talking about the wonderful Ford 3.8L V6, anytime is really fine for that engine to blow a head gasket. It happens..its just a bad design...but we'll stay positive and hope it's not that.



If you're not getting any hot coolant through your heater core, you might want to check and see if the coolant is leaking from a heater hose when the heater is on, or maybe from the heater core itself.98 taurus over heating... AGAIN!?
since corrosion is present, there is a possibility the heater core is clogged. take both hoses off core, hook garden hose to inlet hole and flush out. could be water is not going tru core and therefore no circulation back to engine block. change thermostat98 taurus over heating... AGAIN!?
eliminate the fan switch and run it direct from a fuse to have continuous air flowing to the radiator that guarantees that its not the fan :)

How much longer do you give my cherokee?

I own a 1992 Jeep Cherokee, i recently decided to do some work on it. I am going to be changing the head gasket, De gunking the valve train, cleaning the cylinder bores as well as the cylinder heads themselves, as well as replacing the radiator. My jeep currently has a total of 397 xxx KM on it. Before i get bitched out and told to ditch it please understand that this motor is known to last up to 480 xxx KM BEFORE getting a rebuildHow much longer do you give my cherokee?
I'm with you...clean it up and keep it running till the wheels fall off (just an expression).How much longer do you give my cherokee?
No more than 2 years, its almost 20 years old.
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  • Metal shavings on the dipstick?

    I was told by the mechanic today that I have metal shavings in my oil. They were in the oil on the dipstick. Not the transmission fluid, it's the engine oil! What does this mean? I know it's bad, but how bad? It's not my fault, it's the mechanics. I took it in for a blown head gasket - it was pouring antifreeze, never overheated, I've been diligent with my oil changes at 2000 - 2500 miles, the engine had absolutely no problems until they changed my head gasket so they are definitely going to have to fix this and eat the costs, but I am just wondering what I am looking at possibly. Thrown rod maybe?Metal shavings on the dipstick?
    There are many things that could have caused this. Before your head gasket was change water could have leaked into the cylinder and caused it to hydraulic bending a rod or a valve. The ticking noise you heard could be coming from the valve train which would have been affected by the head gasket change. You will probably be looking at a pulling the motor to find out what is causing this noise. Pedro says changing the oil filter is all you need to do WRONG. Do not drive this vehicle any more, have it towed to another garage if you don't like the last one. If the ticking is the valve train your fix should be inexpensive but if it drove it will cost you more. However with metal shavings in the oil I would say your problem is worse. If the tick high pitched it is from your valve train and the shavings could be valve seats or valve guides. If the tick was low pitched with a deep echo it is coming from the bottom end and could be bearings. Anyway don't drive this car any more it will only damage it more!



    Driving it that short of distance from the shop after them fixing it and something goes wrong! Any good shop would realize they did something wrong and would fix it at no cost to you. If you have problems with this shop find another. You said about a warranty, any dealer of the same type of auto should honor it and would be glad to have your business.Metal shavings on the dipstick?
    yeah your engine is totaled what ever they did it mad it worse your bearings are shot. if they did this then make em pay for itMetal shavings on the dipstick?
    depends on the amount of shavings...you can have a magnet placed in your oil pan...if you threw a ros you'd know itMetal shavings on the dipstick?
    metal shavings mean nothing..unless your engine is not working [overheating,,,banging noise,,etc] just change oil and filter and dont worry,,,nothing in a head gasget change that would cause shavings,,, it woul'nt cost more if u wait,,,just keep driving...Metal shavings on the dipstick?
    it just sounds like when u blew the gasket that it could have also threw that rod and smashed against the block and shavin off the flakes into ur oil! so i would make them do it again and yes have them eat the cost!!!!Metal shavings on the dipstick?
    Why do you thing they are responsible? They fixed what you told them too. Anytime you get water in the oil it is a good chance that the water will ruin the bearings which is what happened in your case.Metal shavings on the dipstick?
    youve got definate bearing wear.... a crank kit at the very least....sounds like the head gasket allowed water to the crankcase at time of failure,,,,water and coolant are NOT good lubricants for bearings..Metal shavings on the dipstick?
    changing a head gasket wouldnt do that. if the noise is low, then its probably a rod bearing ready to go. if you threw a rod, it would be louder then a tick.now dear, this is just a guess, you can run this by your husband and see what he thinks. what about when they were cleaning the block and heads, some of the steel got into the oil drain holes and went into the oil pan, if it did then maybe the bearings picked up some of them. thats just a guess, i could be wrong.

    1988 Ford F-250 help?

    I have a 1988 Ford F-250 with a 302 EFI (Fuel Injected) its also 4x4, i have a major problem it wont start. It wont even start to turn over. Battery is fully charged and i replaced the starter... Help Please!!! also how hard is it to change the head gaskets?1988 Ford F-250 help?
    check grown from bat to frame to engine block rh side

    next check cable from positive to starter relay if it click went you start

    if no click

    check small connector on starter relay if rusty

    if you have a click

    may have bad starter relay bad grown bad ignition switch or neutral safety switch gone

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    as for head gasket not bad

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    Code 13 shows up on scan on a 92 firebird. 305 tbi?

    had the head gaskets changed and oil pump and code 13 shows up on scan tool. Code 13 is oxygen sensor low signal. The car runs like crap. How do I fix the problem does it have anything to do with the catalytic converter. It wants to kill when I step on the gas, spits and sputters and car shakes. Please help the guy that fixed my car doesnt now what is wrong.Code 13 shows up on scan on a 92 firebird. 305 tbi?
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    Peugeot 206 handbrake and oil light flickering?

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    i have a 2000 Peugeot 206 1.4 and a week ago i had my timing belt and head gasket changed because i had an oil leak. i don't no if its related but the handbrake light, oil light and stop light is flickering at me when stopping in traffic and like usual i have the handbrake light lit i have my handbrake on.



    as soon as i start to move off or rev the car a little the lights stop flickering and everything is normal. i hear no unusual noise and i haven't realised any difference in the car.



    i also changed the oil pressure switch which hasn't helped.



    i checked all my oils and they are all find and also the car came out of mechanics and i was there when he checked and topped up all the oils and liquids etc etc.



    does anyone one why its flickering please help and someone also told me to increase the idle and it will fix the problem how do i do that and what is idle.Peugeot 206 handbrake and oil light flickering?
    you need a new oil pressure switch,approx 拢5 and 15 minuets to fit onePeugeot 206 handbrake and oil light flickering?
    You MIGHT have a sticking oil presure relief valve, or your idle is too low. The oil pressure relief valve is a part of your oil pump. In other words, if your relief valve is mucked up with sludgy oil, it cannot do it's job, which is to regulate oil pressure when the engine is cold or idling slow. If your engine is fule injected, have your IDLE AIR CONTROL VALVE cleaned out with gum-out spray or equivalent. Check your PCV hose for signs of collapsing. IF you have been using regular oils, STOP DOING THIS. Regular oil is the usual cause for oil leaks and sticking pressure valves. START using Mobil One or ELF oil , or at least German Castrol!!! If your engine is idling too slow, it will trigger the oil pressure light no matter how often you change the sensor. Perhaps your technician has used the wrong weight or manufacture of oil for your car. START by having your throttle body and idle air control valve cleaned out. Power wash your engine so things stay clean and easy to see! It is also possible that your voltage regulator is acting up due to low engine speed, or bad carbon brushes that need replacing.Peugeot 206 handbrake and oil light flickering?
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